Jason Mangone works at the New York City Department of Veterans' Services, where he serves as their Director of Public Private Partnerships and Development. He started out studying Political Science at Boston College and then served as a Platoon Commander in the Marine Corps. After leaving the military he was a Research Associate at the Think Tank, The Council on Foreign Relations for one year, prior to going to Yale for his Master’s in International Relations. After that he joined the Aspen Institute and was their director of The Franklin Project - an initiative to start a national discussion around a year of service for all citizens.
BTU #20 - Tony Zamora: Electronics Technician to Human Resources
“Something that was surprising [about the transition to civilian life] is that not everything is really laid out for you. In the military a lot of things are laid out for you; you go through specific trainings and checklists, you have a criteria on how you’re going to grow your career and take the test to advance and everything is defined by points and very structured in the military. When you get out, it’s nothing like that. You’re as successful on the outside as you want to be. you have to be hungry for those opportunities and seek them, because nothing is really laid out for you." – Tony Zamora
Tony Zamora is the Director of Human Resources at Ipsos, a company with over 17,000 worldwide employees. Tony started out as an Electronics Tech in the US Navy, and also served as an Electronics Repair Technician with the Coast Guard. He has worked in Human Resources roles at the Sierra Nevada Corporation and The San Jose Group.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- An overview of Human Resources and why you might find it appealing
- What it’s like to be a Director of Human Resources, and what day-to-day life looks like
- Common mistakes that veterans make in their transition and job search
- How to improve your resume
- What someone on active duty can do right now to start preparing for their transition to a civilian career
- And much, much more…
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Show Notes
- 1:20 - Tony’s background
- 2:25 - Tony’s decision to leave the military and how he approached it
- 3:31 - How Tony researched what he wanted to do outside of the military
- 5:41 - An overview of Human Resources and what appealed to Tony about this career
- 7:01 - What it’s like to be a Director of Human Resources, and what day-to-day life looks like
- 11:10 - In what ways Tony felt ahead of his peers in Human Resources, and where he had to catch up based on his military service
- 13:07 - What was most surprising to Tony about his transition to civilian life
- 14:40 - Advice to veterans based on Tony’s experience in Human Resources (HR)
- 16:35 - The best advice Tony received about how to transition to a civilian career
- 17:40 - Advice on how to network
- 21:45 - Common mistakes that veterans make in their transition and job search
- 22:16 - How to improve your resume
- 23:50 - What someone on active duty can do right now to start preparing for their transition to a civilian career
- 27:35 - Final words of advice to veterans
BTU 17: Maggi & Johannes - Career Off-roading
This episode is a break from my normal format - rather than interview a veteran about their civilian career, I interview TWO veterans about their advice based on their work in helping other veterans. This episode is FULL of helpful hints, resources, and recommendations that would benefit any veteran.
In this interview I meet with Johannes Schonberg and Maggi Melina. Johannes enlisted in the navy as a Nuclear Machinist Mate, before attending the Naval Academy with a degree in English. He served as a Surface Warfare Officer in San Diego for five years before transitioning to civilian life. He has done work in Politics and as a consultant, helping companies like T-Mobile and Facebook hire veterans. Maggi Air Force ground radar systems journeyman, deploying to Kuwait. After her transition, she completed her bachelors degree, went to law school, and worked as a lawyer for seven years. After practicing law, she worked in politics, as an electrician, and then as a founder of a startup.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- Practical tips and tools to use as a veteran to help in your networking
- Coding academies and other efficient resources to help educate you for a specific job
- What companies like Facebook and T-Mobile look for in veterans
- And much, much more...
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Selected Links from the Episode
- Operation Code- mentor people to learn new tech skill set
- LinkedIn Premium Account
- Education sources to consider: EdX, Coursera (Promotion for Veterans), Salesforce for Veterans (VetForce), udemy, Khan Academy, Udacity, Continuing education at community college
- Events to consider - Startup Weekend; Seattle Tech list serv, MeetUp.com, Lean Startup, Veterans on Wall Street, Military Conferences, Academy Conferences
- Code Schools to consider: Code Fellows, Operation Code (list of code schools that take the GI Bill)
- Glass Door - there's a lot of salary info here. I recommend you use them to see the earning potential of graduates from a program; before you invest money in an education, know the concrete numbers you can expect to make on the other side
- American Corporate Partners - connects military personnel with a senior level civilian to be your mentor
- Deliotte Core Leadership Program - helps veterans build an elevator pitch and build their personal brand
- Vet Tech Trek - go from tech companies around SF and NY and finance
- The Commit Foundation - creates tailored transition solutions for top Veteran talent and are reaching Veterans across the nation through our small touch, high impact workshops and 1-on-1 transition assistance programs.
- Upwork - freelance site; could use to build skills
- Top skills for 2015 - what skills are most valuable that year
- To consider while on Active Duty - The Defense Innovation Initiative; the Navy Innovation Advisory; Hacking for Defense (H4D), Defense Entrepreneurs Forum,
- http://seattletechstartups.com/
- To Contact Maggi - OperationCode.Org's Slack Channel (Direct Message @Maggi)
- Johannes' work at Bunker Labs - free resource, overview of what entrepreneurship looks like, as well as the Athena Project
Show Notes
- 1:30 Intro and background info Johannes and Maggi
- 7:12 What people on active duty may not understand about civilian life.
- 12:30 What is “networking” and advice for veterans about how to get started
- 17:10 Education - taking a proactive and efficient approach to education, and specific resources to consider
- 21:00 How a veteran might approach “networking” in a way that is more authentic and natural to them
- 23:26 A few other resources to consider for education
- 25:20 Common mistakes that veterans make in their transition to civilian life
- 29:50 An overview of Code Schools and Coding Academies
- 34:58 What veterans should know about applying to companies like Facebook and T-Mobile
- 43:40 Other advice and words of wisdom for veterans
BTU #16 - John Vardaman: Construction, Project Management, and Tesla
“And I think sometimes that was hard to admit to ourselves and to others in the military: it was a little scary looking out there at the job market and trying to figure out how am I going to make this work and make this happen? It is not that bad - and I would encourage folks to be confident in themselves and their skills. You've been equipped with the skills to land pretty much any job out there." – John Vardaman
John Vardaman is a Senior Construction Manager at Tesla. He started his career in the Construction Industry at DPR Construction, where he served as a Project Manager. While at DPR Construction, he earned his Masters in Sustainable Design and Construction at Stanford University. In the military, John served as a Human Intelligence Officer in the Marine Corps, and graduated from the US Naval Academy.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- How John used multiple recruiters over the course of a year to find his ideal job
- What it's like to be a Project Manager, and how the military prepares you for this role
- The benefits of pursuing advanced education once you have civilian working experience
- How to explain your background to an employer in terms that will resonate with them
- How to approach the job search with confidence and humility
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Selected Links from the Episode
- DPR Construction
- John mentions working with three recruiting groups, one of which is the Lucas Group
Show Notes
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[2:00] John's Background
- [2:48] Making the decision to leave the Marine Corps
- [4:54] Evaluating whether or not to join the Reserves
- [6:30] Choosing his first job, and working with Recruiters (and the pros and cons of Recruiters)
- [9:18] Starting to work with Recruiters one year from separation and the advantages of more time for interviews
- [12:30] What drew John to Construction and Project Management
- ** [13:20] John does an amazing job explaining his past as it would help in a Project Management role. I thought this was a great, tangible example of how to sell your background for ones desired role
- [16:20] John explains how he would explain his military background in a Project Management role
- [19:27] Day-to-day life of a Project Manager in the Construction industry
- [22:40] Where John felt ahead of his peers based on his military service... and where he felt behind
- [25:48] The most surprising aspect of John's transition to life as a civilian
- [31:23] How leadership outside of the military differs from leadership in the military
- [34:18] Pursuing a Master's at Stanford while working, and how John benefited from having experience before pursuing advanced education
- [39:37] John's experience working at Tesla, and how great it is to work at a company aligned with your values
- [44:44] Final words of advice for military personnel and other veterans
BTU #13 - Taylor Justice: Army to Raising $6M in Funding
“As you start to make this transition, -asking for advice is the smart move. Thinking that you have everything figured out or that you're going to be bothering someone learning about what they're doing that's the fool's road. I would urge people to not be scared of reaching out to people - if you don't, you're hurting yourself." – Taylor Justice
Taylor Justice is the Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer at Unite Us, a start-up that connects citizens with local coordinated services. Based in New York, Unite Us has raised over $6M in venture funding, and over 20 employees. After attending the U.S. Military Academy and serving for over a year as an Infantry Officer in the Army, Taylor was unexpectedly medically discharged from the Army. He faced his transition to civilian life years before he expected it, with no peers or classmates from whom to seek advice. Through a meticulous approach to reaching out to others, Taylor landed his first job in the Medical Devices industry, and then transitioned to the world of tech. While attending Columbia Business School he met his co-founder, and launched Unite Us.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- An unexpected departure from the Army, and navigating a career search before his peers
- Using a systematic email process to gain information and his first job
- The advantages of client support functional roles and sales roles
- What it's like to start and grow a startup
- Advice for other veterans seeking to start their own business
- Not being afraid to ask advice from anyone and everyone as a means of learning
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
Show Notes
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[1:38] Background
- [2:40] An unexpected separation from the Army
- [8:40] The most helpful resources in his initial job search
- [14:07] Advice for structuring an outreach process as part of a job search
- [15:48] How the military most prepared and least prepared him for an Account Executive and Sales role
- [18:50] The starting point of founding Unite Us
- [22:25] Advice on finding and vetting a potential co-founder
- [24:15] Whether to gain experience prior to starting a company, or do it straight out of the military
- [29:12] The day-to-day life of starting a company
- [33:30] Common misconceptions that military personnel have about starting a company
- [38:25] How military personnel can benefit from Unite Us
- [44:05] Biggest advice - don't be afraid to ask for help
BTU #12 - Tim Avery: Consulting, the PhD Process, and Self-Knoweldge
Timothy Avery faced his transition to civilian life much earlier than anticipated, and found himself - far ahead of his peer set - having to decide what to do. Initially, he found his way to Management Consulting, where he worked with both BearingPoint and Booz Allen Hamilton. However, after further consideration, he navigated his way to a doctoral program in clinical psychology (i.e., Doctorate of Psychology, or PsyD).
BTU #11: Alex Chivers - College at Dartmouth & Investment Banking
“Being able to work with deadlines and under pressure, attention to detail...these little things add up dramatically to put you in a position to do well [in the Civilian world]." – Alex Chivers
Alex Chivers served as a Non-Commissioned Officer in the US Army, where was part of the elite Army Rangers. During his time in the Army, Alex deployed multiple times to Afghanistan as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. After leaving the Army, Alex was accepted to Dartmouth College, routinely ranked as one of the top ten colleges in the country. While at Dartmouth, Alex held internships in the Investment Banking world with both Barclays and Perella Weinberg Partners, as well as an internship at the US House of Representatives. Alex has also worked as an Ambassador for Service to School, helping other veterans get into college.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- His decision to leave the Army.
- How a conversation on Reddit helped him get into Dartmouth
- His work with Service to School, and advice on applying to college
- Common mistakes he sees veterans make in their transition to civilian life
- An overview of the Investment Banking world
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
- Service to School - FREE coaching for any military veterans to get into your ideal undergrad or graduate institution
- Service to School's Undergraduate Application Guide
- Service to School's MBA Application Guide
- American Corporate Partners: free assistance to pair veterans with someone in a desired career field
- Warrior Scholar Project (WSP): WSP is essentially an academic bootcamp for transitioning enlisted veterans at top schools across the country. It is completely free for those attending, but participants usually have to cover transportation costs. It focuses heavily on academic reading and writing and is taught by professors from whatever school it is located at.
Show Notes
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[2:10] Army Rangers, Darthmouth, and Alex's background
- [3:10] Deciding to leave the Army
- [4:31] How far in advance Alex started to plan
- [6:35] Deciding between college vs. straight to industry
- [7:45] Preparing financially for the transition to civilian life
- [9:55] How Alex get into Dartmouth
- [13:10] How a Reddit forum helped him get into college
- [15:35] Advice for college applications
- [18:36] Common misconceptions Alex sees when people are applying to college and transitioning to civilian life
- [23:15] How the Army put Alex ahead... and where he felt behind his classmates
- [27:20] Additional resources to consider
- [28:31] Interning in the Investment Banking world
- [30:50] Interning at the US House of Representatives
- [32:22] What's next for Alex after Dartmouth
- [35:30] Final advice to those on Active Duty
BTU #10 - David Lee: Marines to Stanford Business School
“In terms of the highest tangible ROI, an MBA is hard to beat as a veteran, especially for someone like me coming from a non-technical background." – David Lee
David Lee will be attending the Stanford Graduate School of Business next September after over six years of service in the US Marine Corps. He has served as the Director of MBA and Other Graduate Programs at Service 2 School, a free resource to help veterans get into their dream education program. As a result, he has's got a wealth of knowledge for veterans considering going to school once they get out of the military. A NROTC graduate of the University of Michigan, David was academically #1 of 600 at the Officer Candidate School.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- His decision to leave the Marine Corps
- Analyzing grad school problems, their fit, and potential return
- How Service 2 School provided free help in his application process
- Surprises in the grad school admission process
- Advice to those considering applying to schools once they leave the military
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
- Service 2 School - FREE coaching for any military veterans to get into your ideal undergrad or graduate institution
- Service 2 school's MBA application guide
- Warrior Scholar Project - Immersive one and two week academic workshops or "bootcamps" provided free of charge to enlisted veterans and held at some of America's top colleges and universities.
- Four Block - Military veteran resources
- Breakline - career transition resources for veterans interested in Tech
- The Honor Foundation: Transition Readiness Institute created exclusively for Navy SEALs and the U.S. Special Operations community.
- Stanford ignite - social entrepreneruship program for post 9/11 veterans
Show Notes
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[1:50] Background
- [3:00] Making the decision to leave the military
- [4:30] Researching potential options
- [5:50] Choosing to remain in the Reserves
- [6:30] Choosing graduate school as a means to shortcut impact
- [8:30] Service 2 School and how they can help with college & grad school admission
- [9:54] Surprising in the MBA application process
- [11:10] Choosing schools for application...and which to accept
- [11:50] Advice on the application process
- [13:45] A timeline for applying to business schools
- [15:00] Resources for GMAT preparation
- [15:35] Life while applying to grad school
- [16:30] Extracurricular activities while on active duty
- [17:45] What he's learned from working at Service 2 School
- [19:15] Common veteran questions and misconceptions about grad school
- [22:45] Final words of advice
BTU #9 - Will Grannis: Boeing, Google, Startups and More
“Asking for help sometimes for some people implies weakness. If there's one thing I did that was semi-smart it was realizing that I wasn't going to be able to do it on my own and asking for help from those who were closest to me and had the most vested interest in my success." – Will Grannis
Will Grannis is the Managing Director of the Cloud CTO Office at Google. Since his time as an officer in the Army, he's had an incredible career prior to Google, including: Founding a company that was acquired after just two years; serving as the Chief Technology Officer for L-3 Communications, a company with over 38,000 employees worldwide; leading Boeing's Advanced Information Solutions team.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- His decision to leave the Army.
- How he leveraged his closest relationships to land his first civilian job
- How the Army most prepared him for his first job, and where he had to catch up to his peers
- How overhearing a conversation in an adjacent cubicle changed his career
- The advantages of working in a small office environment
- How valuable industry experience is prior to pursuing an advanced degree
- What it's like to work through the first part of a week, hop on a plane and attend grad school, fly back home and start the whole cycle over again
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
Show Notes
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[1:45] Background info
- [3:04] Approaching the decision to leave the Army
- [5:40] Active duty to IRR... and then to the Reserves
- [7:51] The Telecom industry and a role as Program Manager
- [10:19] How Will approached his job start when he first left the Army
- [14:38] Day-to-day life in Will's first civilian job in the Telecom Industry, and why small companies are so valuable for veterans
- [20:58] How the Army was a competitive advantage for Will... and where he had to catch up
- [22:52] The biggest surprise Will faced when he transitioned to civilian life
- [25:35] Making the transition to Boeing after one year as a civilian
- [32:31] Pursuing an MBA at Wharton while working at Boeing
- [36:15] How to consider grad school or straight to industry and what degree to pursue
- [38:48] Final advice to anyone on Active Duty
BTU #8 - Tim Hsia: Boost Your Acceptance Rate to College & Grad School
Of every interview I've done so far, this it the one I would most recommend to every single military veteran - enlisted and officer.Tim Hsia received his JD and MBA from Stanford after serving as a Captain in the US Army. While at Stanford, Tim co-founded two companies; one sold to the Stanford Daily, and the second is still in operation. This organization - Service 2 School - is a free resource for all veterans to help them get into the best school (college or grad school) for them.
BTU #7 - Shaunnah Sopko: Project & Program Management
“You can do an internship - not just through grad school - as a way to dip your toe in the water to see how you like that type of role and company. It’s a great way to give yourself that reflection time period if you’r not going to go to a grad school program." – Shaunnah Sopko
Shaunnah Sopko is a Product Quality Program Manager at Nest. She holds an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business, an MS in Systems Engineering from the Naval Postgraduate School, and a BS in Systems Engineering from the US Naval Academy. Shaunnah served six years as an officer in the Surface Warfare community, where she served on the USS Shoup (DDG 86), Destroyer Squadron 9, and as the Flag Aide to the Superintendent of the US Naval Academy.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- Her decision to leave the Navy
- Joining the Reserves through grad school and at work
- Advice for Business School appliations
- How the military prepared her for graduate school…and where she had to catch up
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Overview of Product & Program Management
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Advice for Active Duty military personnel who want to pursue a career in Product & Program Management
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Recommended resources to prepare for your transition
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
Show Notes
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[1:20] Background
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[3:15] - Weighing options on leaving the Navy
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[5:50] - Joining the Reserves through grad school and at work
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[7:15] - How Shaunnah’s company accommodated her Reserves time[10:10] - Pursuing a second master’s degree
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[11:24] - Advice for Business School appliations
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[14:35] - How the military prepared her for graduate school…and where she had to catch up
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[18:07] - Overview of Product & Program Management
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[21:15] - Advice for Active Duty military personnel who want to pursue a career in Product & Program Management
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[24:52] - Interning at Apple
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[28:08] - Choosing Nest
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[29:38] - Advice for preparing for an interview
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[32:07] - Day-to-Day life as a Program Manager
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[40:33] - How the military prepared her for Program Management…and where she had to catch up
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[42:35] - Recommended resources to prepare for your transition
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[46:45] - Final advice for transition
BTU #6 - Jimmy Sopko: Active Duty to Pinterest & High Tech
“Be open to the fact that you don't know what you don't know. Be willing to reach out and ask people what they do, what they like and don't like...be open to just learning and figuring out what's important to you and try to find a company that's right for you." – Jimmy Sopko
Jimmy Sopko is a Manager of Growth Sales at Pinterest. Jimmy got his start at Pinterest by rolling up his sleeves and taking a job at Pinterest as part of their Community Operations team. While this was a step back in terms of pay and seniority, it got his foot in the door and he was able to quickly work his way up within Pinterest... a company that has already tripled in growth since he joined. Jimmy is a graduate of the US Naval Academy, and former Surface Warfare Officer. He's also an avid rower, having earned a Silver Medal in the 2009 World Rowing Championships.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
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The three approaches Jimmy took to get his first job (Recruiters, Networking, Mentors)
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The importance of choosing a lifestyle NOT a specific role at a company
- How he narrowed his job search down to the Technology industry and Pinterest
- What it's like to join an internet rocket ship... at the very bottom
- Why he thinks it may be better to skip grad school and going straight to industry
- The difference between military leadership and Tech leadership
- How customer-facing roles maximize your learning inside a company
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
- Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory
- US Rowing Team
- Military LinkedIn network: iSABRD
- The Boys in the Boat: Nine Americans and Their Epic Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics
- How to Get Hired at Google - Cracking the Tech Career: Insider Advice on Landing a Job at Google, Microsoft, Apple, or any Top Tech Company
Show Notes
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[1:30] Background
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[2:40] Transition from the Navy to US Rowing Team and searching for a new career
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[4:10] Three approaches to getting his first job (Recruiters, Networking, Mentors)
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[6:38] Approaching the decision to leave the military
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[8:40] Choosing to not join the Reserves
- [10:55] The importance of choosing a lifestyle NOT a specific role
- [11:55] Deciding to leave the US Rowing Team and enter industry
- [12:53] Exploring career possibilities while rowing
- [14:10] Narrowing a job search down to the Technology industry and Pinterest
- [16:30] Joining a rocket ship... at the very bottom
- [17:57] Advice for skipping grad school and going straight to industry
- [23:40] The difference between military leadership and Tech leadership
- [26:50] How customer-facing roles maximize your learning inside a company
- [27:52] Day-to-day life of a Community Operations / Customer Support roles
- [30:00] Managing in an organization (vs. in the military)
- [32:05] Day-to-day life in Growth Sales capacity
- [36:50] Advice to those currently on Active Duty
BTU #5 - Bobby Farina: Financial Services and Finding the Right Path for You
“There is an insatiable appetite [at top tier business schools]... at these schools for people who have real leadership backgrounds, and they view the military as an incubator for that." – Bobby Farina
Bobby Farina is a Partner at Sixpoint Ventures, after having spent over 10 years in the Financial Services industry. Bobby attended the US Air Force Academy, where he studied Management, prior to entering the intelligence community as an Information Security Specialist. Although he obtained his MS in in Information Security at Johns Hopkins University while on Active Duty, he chose to attend Columbia Business School after he separated from the Air Force.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- His decision to leave the Air Force, and how he thought about the Reserves
- Using grad school while in the military to offset a low GPA from undergrad and boost grad school admission chances
- Considering the opportunity cost of pursuing a master's degree vs. entering industry right away
- Recommendations for schools focusing on finance and advice on how to get in
- A breakdown of the Financial Services industry and where veterans fit in
- How to get your first job in Financial Services
- What you may end up missing from the military
- And much, much more…
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Selected Links from the Episode
- McConnel Air Force Base
- Management Major at Air Force (mini-MBA)
- Network Security USAF
- Melissa / I love you Virus
- Intelligence agencies: Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), National Security Agency (NSA), National Reconnaisance Office (NRO), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
- JWIX intelligence network
- Air Force recruiting - ALO - Admissions Liason Officer
- Johns Hopkins MS in Information Security
- Cyber Security jobs referenced: Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin
- Top Tier Business Schools for Finance: University of Chicago (Booth School of Business), Wharton School of Business, Columbia Business School, Darden at University of Virginia, MIT Sloan School of Business
- Bank of America & Evercore
- Financial Services: Investment Banking, Sales and Trading, Private Wealth Management (PWM), Private Equity, Hedge Funds
- Sales Side Institutions Points of Conversation: JP Morgan, State Street, Wellington
Show Notes
- [0:22] - Personal, USAFA and Air Force background
- [6:54] - Decision to leave the Air Force
- [9:54] - Considering Air Force Reserves
- [12:12] - Air Force Reserves while in Financial Services
- [13:04] - Doing grad school while on active duty
- [16:50] - using post college work to boost your GPA if you have a lower college GPA
- [19:42] - deciding on a second master's degree and an MBA
- [21:00] - Choosing Columbia as business school and application process
- [21:53] - Recommendations for Top Tier Business Schools focusing on Finance
- [23:40] - Balancing Applications to business school & general advice
- [26:25] - Finding the right school for you
- [28:30] - Getting the most out of grad school but knowing your intended industry
- [31:00] - Overview of the Financial Services Industry
- [35:45] - Why Financial Services companies love veterans
- [37:45] - What traits they most prize in veteran applicants
- [41:10] - Advice for someone who wants to enter Financial Services industry
- [44:05] - Biggest surprise in transitioning to civilian world
BTU #4 - Brad Bonney - Business School, Confidence, and a Startup Rollercoaster
“What I didn't know [when I was first getting out of the Navy] was how prepared and equipped veterans are as they're transitioning for an unbelievable number of roles within corporate america.”
– Brad Bonney
Brad Bonney grew up in Kansas City and in 8th Grade decided to attend the Naval Academy. He graduated from USNA in '05, went to Stanford University to get his MS in Electrical Engineering, and then joined the submarine pipeline. After five years of service on the USS Jefferson City, he left the Navy to attend the Stanford Graduate School of Business.
After graduating from Stanford (for the second time), Brad joined AirBnB as one of their first thousand employees. Since then, he has seen the company triple in size, as he serves as a manager on their Trust & Safety team (with over 200 employees).
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- His decision to leave the Navy, and how he thought about the Reserves
- How he decided to go back to grad school again
- Advice on applying to a top tier business school
- Thoughts about Executive Education programs
- How he decided to join AirBnB, and how he got his foot in the door
- What is day-to-day life like at a high-growth internet startup
- What has been the most surprising aspect of civilian life
- And much, much more…
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QUESTION OF THE DAY: How can I make these episodes more valuable to active duty military personnel considering transitioning to the civilian world? Please let me know in the comments.
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Selected Links from the Episode
- Trident Scholar Program
- Stanford Master in Electrical Engineering
- USS Jefferson City (SSN 759)
- Stanford Graduate School of Business application
- Veterans club for Harvard Business School and Stanford GSB
- UCLA Executive MBA
- Airbnb
- Other sharing economy companies: TaskRabbit, Lyft, Postmates
- Goldman Sachs
- Stanford Career Life Visioning
Show Notes
- [3:03] - Personal, USNA and Navy background
- [3:35] - Stanford MS experience
- [4:23] - Decision to transition from the Navy
- [5:08] - Decision process for not joining the Navy Reserves
- [5:55] - Deciding to get another degree
- [7:20] - Choosing Business School over other grad programs
- [8:23] - Why Stanford & the application process, how to evaluate the value of business school
- [9:45] - Advice for applying to Stanford (and Business School in general) and what not to do
- [12:10] - Advice to active duty military thinking of applying to Business School in several years
- [13:40] - considering Executive Education vs. Full Time grad school
- [15:08] - Understanding what you're buying with an MBA experience
- [15:48] - AirBnB description & joining a high-growth startup
- [17:43] - What day-to-day job looks like
- [19:13] - Team size and composition
- [19:48] - Travel
- [21:10] - Hours
- [22:29] - Perks & Paternity Leave
- [25:18] - Vacation
- [26:29] - Choosing an Industry and deciding on AirBnB
- [29:03] - Preparing for Interview, and the interview process
- [31:18] - Deciding on the size of the company
- [33:08] - Difference in management in civilian life vs. the military
- [36:58] - Advice to current college students planning a transition to civilian life
- [38:23] - Advice to officers thinking of getting out of the military in the next 1-2 years
- [40:16] - Most surprising aspects of transition from active duty
BTU #3 - Robert Miller: Medical Devices, Operations, and Using a Recruiter
Robert Miller - Robert is an Operations Manager in the Medical Device industry at a company called Drummond Scientific. Growing up in Charlotte, North Carolina, Rob enlisted in the US Marine Corps where he served as a technician on the stinger missile systems. After three years, while serving in Iraq he was accepted to the US Naval Academy, and returned back to the Marine Corps after graduating from USNA:
BTU #2 - Jay Border: How to use an Executive MBA to Gain Career Clarity
"A lot of us come out of the military and we've been reassured that our experience in the military is highly valuable... and I believe that that's true, but I also believe that the transition is not as easy as people want you to believe. It's a lot of work and a full-time job to set yourself up to a successful transition."
– Jay Border
This is a great interview for anyone on Active Duty who is considering going to grad school - Jay does a great job of walking through his decision process amongst grad school programs, and whether to do full-time or part-time, during active duty or after active duty.
Jay Border grew up in South Florida. He had always wanted to be involved in government service, and saw that institutions like the FBI always viewed military service as a plus. That, combined with his love of the water and desire for an academic challenge drew him to the US Naval Academy, where he studied International Relations and National Security. He was selected for Aviation, however was medically disqualified during his pilot training. This lead to a lateral transfer to the Intelligence Community, where he supported Special Operations. While on Active Duty, he completed his Executive MBA (EMBA) at UCLA's Anderson School of Business, and is currently pursuing opportunities in the Private Equity space.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- His decision to leave the Navy
- How an Executive MBA program allowed him to maintain an income and evaluate a career inside and outside of the military
- Evaluating the financial difference between a private and public university with respect to the GI Bill
- Advantages that veterans have that they don't often realize as advantages
- Considering the cost of grad school
- How to use the GI Bill to make grad school more affordable
- How to use advisors, mentors, and your network to help narrow your job search and get an edge
- The value of "closing doors" on career possibilities early
- How to manage the early stages of a career search as if it were a full time job
- And much, much more…
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- Listen to it on iTunes.
- Stream by clicking here.
- Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”
QUESTION OF THE DAY: How can I make these episodes more valuable to active duty military personnel considering transitioning to the civilian world? Please let me know in the comments.
Scroll below for links and show notes…
Selected Links from the Episode
- UCLA Anderson Executive MBA Program
- Message to Garcia
- Wharton's San Francisco EMBA program
- GI Bill Process
Show Notes
- [1:28] - Personal background and decision to go to the Naval Academy
- [2:30] - The Naval Academy, Aviation and the Naval Intelligence Community
- [4:07] - Deciding to leave the Navy
- [7:27] - Reasons for choosing to join the Reserves
- [9:51] - Choosing business school over other graduate school programs
- [15:25] - Choosing an Executive MBA program over a traditional full-time program
- [22:45] - How the military got him ahead, and where he needed to catch up to his non-military peers
- [28:02] - Deciding on UCLA over other MBA programs
- [33:06] - Advice for how to manage a job search
- [39:58] - Building an "Advisory Board" to help with your transition
- [45:30] - Resources active duty military personnel should check out
BTU #1 - Blake Lindsay: Active Duty to Consulting @ McKinsey & Co.
Blake Lindsay grew up all over the United States, and knew from an early age that he wanted to go to a service academy. At the Naval Academy, he was the Captain of the Men's Rugby Team while majoring in Ocean Engineering. After graduating from USNA in 2005, Blake joined the Surface Warfare Community and then went through the Nuclear Power pipeline. After Nuclear Power School and Prototype, Blake was stationed in Seattle with the USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74). While on Active Duty, Blake went through Old Dominion University's graduate school, receiving his Master's in Engineering Management shortly after separating from the Navy. Blake's first job out of the military was with McKinsey & Co. in the industry of Management Consulting.