Michael is the President & Owner of M3S Networking, a small business that focuses on dynamic problem-solving, particularly with startups and small businesses. He Started out at the Naval Academy, after which he served for seven years as a submarine officer. After his transition from the Navy, he spent two years working on a spy satellite job with the National Reconnaissance Office as an Acquisition/Project Officer. Michael is also the Chairman of the Navy Nuclear Power Officer Career Conference (NUPOCC), a career fair helping veterans transition from the military or find new jobs- those of you who have listened to Episode #55 with Ashley Snyder will remember this as the organization that she credited with landing a job at Google directly out of the Air Force. Finally, he's a husband, dad of 3 boys and is a credentialed baseball media member.
BTU #69 - Alex Martin: Marine to Global Entrepreneur at AC Global Risk
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“At this point, I don't think I really could have a boundary [between professional and personal life]. It's not about a forty-hour work week, and being able to accomplish everything in forty hours; I get that. It's about constantly thinking about the product, thinking about the customers we have and the customers we want, where we're going to go and what the next steps are. I just can't turn it off: I dream about it, I think about it every minute, and there is no separation. Maybe that's unhealthy and a bad thing, but at this point if no one is as fanatically excited and obsessed with the product we're trying to create than the founders then I don't think it can work at this stage." – Alex Martin
Alex Martin is the CEO & Co-Founder of AC Global Risk, a company that creates solutions to transform how companies & governments vet, screen and assess internal and external human-based risk. Alex started out at the Naval Academy and served in the Marine Corps for seven years as a Infantry & Ground Reconnaissance Officer. After his transition from the Marines he founded Skye Maritime - maritime security services to commercial shipping - as well as the Kenya Team Leader for the non-profit, Nuru International. Alex is currently a Major in the Marine Corps Reserves.
The top three reasons to listen to this episode are:
- Service - Alex has continued to serve in the Marine Corps Reserves, he worked in Kenya with the organization Nuru helping local farmers grow their income, and his own company - AC Global Risk - has a service element as well. He’s a great role model for keeping service an active component in his life, and talks about how to serve as a for-profit venture
- Startups - Alex started his first company straight of the Marine Corps and it failed. He learned from it, and is on his second company, AC Global Risk. He is very honest and balanced in this interview about failure, about mistakes, and how these are essential for entrepreneurs
- Stanford Ignite - Alex goes in depth on the Stanford Ignite program as well as many other really valuable resources for those of you interested in startups
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Selected Links
- A great article on Alex and his company: http://www.military.com/veteran-jobs/career-advice/job-hunting/from-marines-to-entrepreneur-alex-martin.html
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- Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World
- The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers
- Get Backed: Craft Your Story, Build the Perfect Pitch Deck, and Launch the Venture of Your Dreams - more on technical side, the top 15-20 pitch decks. Can take this and pick and choose what you like and choose your ownBook Recommendations
- The Entrepreneur's Guide to Business Law, 4th Edition - save $1000's on legal
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- Related Podcasts
- Great EO Fire podcast episode that talks about the power of obsession in startups. I reference this in the interview and think it’s really relevant to entrepreneurship. Be Obsessed or Be Average, it’s that simple says Grant Cardone
- Don Faul interview - referenced as a huge resource of support
Show Notes
- 2:08 - Alex's background
- 2:50 - Alex's decision to transition from the Marine Corps to a civilian career
- 3:39 - Alex's experience being part of the Reserves and how it has impacted his civilian career
- 5:32 - Alex's experience as part of the Stanford Ignite program and how this impacted his entrepreneurial experience
- 7:49 - An overview of Stanford Ignite as a program for veterans
- 10:22 - Alex's experience at Nuru International
- 15:15 - The genesis of Alex's second company, AC Global Risk
- 17:40- An overview of AC Global Risk
- 19:21 - What Alex's day-to-day life looks like as the CEO of AC Global Risk
- 21:11 - Alex's lifestyle as an entrepreneur married to another entrepreneur
- 24:27 - How long it took Alex to be able to pay himself as salary while he was starting his own company
- 28:43 - Alex's biggest mistake in starting his own company and what he learned from it
- 33:03 - Alex's team size at AC Global Risk and what his team looks like
- 34:22 - Advice for any veteran thinking of starting their own company
- 35:36 - Resources Alex would recommend to any veteran thinking of starting their own company
- 37:53 - Advice for veterans seeking to raising capital for their own company, and the fundraising experience
- 43:40 - Habits that Alex had to break when he left the military in order to be successful in his civilian career
- 45:55 - Other mistakes that Alex made since departing the military and what he learned from them
- 48:47 - Final words of wisdom for veterans of the Armed Forces
BTU #61 - Ryan Guina: Air Force E5 to Business Owner @ The Military Wallet
Ryan is the Founder of Cash Money Life & The Military Wallet - two websites that focus on helping people better manage their finances by offering informational articles, tips, tutorials, and product and service reviews. He has run these sites for over nine years and been featured on publications including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and LifeHacker. He started out in the Air Force, where he served for six and a half years as an Electrical-Environmental Specialist. After transitioning from the military, he worked at BearingPoint as a Management Analyst and then at the Computer Sciences Corporation as a Business Process Modeler. In addition to running his websites, Ryan currently serves in the Illinois Air National Guard.
BTU #59 - Dr. Patrick Leddin: Army to starting (and 11 years later selling) his own consulting company
Dr. Patrick Leddin is a Professor at Vanderbilt University’s Managerial Studies Program, where he teaches both Corporate Strategy and Principles of Marketing. He started out in the Army, where he served for over six years with the 82nd Airborne Division as a Platoon Leader, Staff Officer, and Company Commander. After transitioning from the Army, he worked as a Senior Consultant at KPMG. He then started his own consulting firm, the Wedgewood Consulting Group, and served as Managing Director. In 2011 Inc Magazine named Wedgwood one of the fastest growing private companies in America, and they were acquired in 2012. Patrick holds a PhD in Communication from the University of Kentucky, and has also worked as a Director & Senior Consultant at Franklin Covey for nearly 16 years.
BTU #57 - Alex Pedersen: Air Force to Google to Employee #5 at a Startup
Alex Pedersen is the COO of POLCO - an early stage startup that is a political participation platform for local governments. He started out at the Air Force Academy, after which he received his Masters of Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. He served for seven years as an Air Force Officer, before transitioning directly to Google where he worked on Strategy, Planning & Analysis.
BTU #47 - Tom Pae: Army to LinkedIn & Slack
Tom Pae is a Sales Enablement Manager at Slack - one of the fastest growing startups in San Francisco, who has raised $540M in funding. He started out at West Point, and served in the Army for over seven years as an Armor & Military Intelligence Officer. When he left the Army he went to Columbia Business School. After that, he joined LinkedIn - first as a Sales Operations Manager and then as a Senior Learning Technology Strategist. He is married to fellow Army veteran, RaeAnne Pae, who I interviewed in Episode 26.
BTU #39: Frank Van Buren - Blackhawk pilot to 18 years in Financial Services at Wells Fargo
Frank Van Buren lives in North Carolina and works at Wells Fargo in their High Yield Sales & Trading Group. Frank started out at the Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania, where he did Army ROTC, after which he was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the National Guard/Reserve, and then decided to become a Chief Warrant Officer on active duty in the US Army, where served as a Blackhawk pilot for six years. After his transition from the Army, he earned his MBA from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He has worked at Wells Fargo for the last 18 years, first as part of their Investment Banking group and then as part of their Fixed-Income Sales & Trading groups. He also runs the site, AdviceForVets.com.
BTU #32: Brooke Jones-Chinetti: Cold emails, JPMorgan, and Startup CEO
“Really its a full time job to get a full-time job. Sometimes with veterans, we're bringing these unfathomable managerial skills to these organizations that we transition to. But we forget that stuff shouldn't just be handed to us... I'm the queen of the cold email now, and I wish that I would have had that confidence as I transitioned to try to find veterans at companies that I was interested in, and to hear what their transition was like." – Brooke Jones-Chinetti
Brooke Jones-Chinetti lives in New York, where she most recently served as the CEO of VetTechTrek - a startup that facilitates high-impact trips to leading tech companies for veterans and their spouses. She started out at West Point, where she received her Bachelor of Science in Portuguese and Environmental Engineering. She served in the US Army for over 6 years, during which she deployed to Iraq as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom, and to Kuwait as part of Operation Enduring Freedom - Spartan Shield. She also served as Senior Director of Human Resources and served as the executive officer for the Army's Chief of Signal, a 2-star general position. After her transition from the Army, she spent a year in the Financial Services industry with JPMorgan Chase & Co. as part of their rotational Executive Development Program. She is currently studying at Columbia Business School.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- Step-by-step advice on how to write cold emails to figure out what you want to do and get your foot in the door for a job
- An over of the JP Morgan Chase rotational Executive Development Program
- Brooke’s experience as CEO of an early stage startup at VetTechTrek
- How leadership as CEO of a startup differed from leadership in the military
- And much, much more…
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- Listen to it on iTunes.
- Stream by clicking here.
- Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”
QUESTION OF THE DAY: How can I make these episodes more valuable to active duty military personnel considering transitioning to the civilian world? Please let me know in the comments.
Scroll below for links and show notes…
Show Notes
- 1:56 - Brooke’s background
- 3:04 - How Brooke and her husband both decided to leave the Army
- 6:15 - Evaluating the Reserves
- 10:40 - The most surprising aspect of Brooke’s transition from the Army to civilian life
- 13:15 - How to use cold emails to find other veterans, learn from their experience, and make connections
- 16:25- Brooke’s first job search and what she learned along the way
- 21:36 - Advice on how to manage the timing of your transition from active duty
- 27:20 - Advice for how to better understand yourself and what you’ll enjoy in a career
- 32:15 - An over of the JP Morgan Chase rotational Executive Development Program
- 34:50 - Brooke’s day-to-day life while at JP Morgan Chase
- 38:15 - Brooke’s decision to transition from JP Morgan Chase to Columbia Business School, and wy she chose an Executive Education program
- 43:02 - Brooke’s experience as CEO of an early stage startup at VetTechTrek
- 47:10 - How leadership as CEO of a startup differed from leadership in the military
- 49:01 - How Brooke felt ahead of her civilian counterparts, and where she had to work to catch up
- 51:33 - Final words of wisdom1:24 - Travis' background
BTU #27: Katie Horgan - Marines to Operations at Early-Stage Startups
Katie Horgan is a the Senior Director of Operations at Crave Crush - a very interesting New York based Health & Wellness startup. She started out at the University of Southern California, where she earned her Bachelor of Arts in Political Science. After that she served for over six years in the Marine Corps, serving as a Platoon Commander, Company Commander, and Operations Officer, spending time as a convoy commander in Iraq and serving as part of a crisis response force in the pacific theater. When she transitioned from the military she went to Columbia Business School where she earned her MBA. From Business school she went to the NY-based startup, Plated, first as their Director of Operations & Logistics, and then as their Senior Director of Operations & Logistics.
BTU 26: RaeAnne Pae - Army to Facebook and Business Development
“I had been given good advice that it didn't matter the first job I did as long as I was learning from it and seeking out opportunities in the first job to be able to figure out what I wanted to do next. And so I went into it with the mindset that I would pick everyone's brains who I worked with even if not on my team and build these relationships so i could figure out what the next step was." – RaeAnne Pae
RaeAnne Pae is a Client Solution Manager at Facebook, where she helps Financial Technology marketers grow their audience and business through Facebook. RaeAnne started out at doing ROTC at Morehead State University, where she earned her Bachelor of Science in Psychology. After that she served for over 7 years in the Army as an Intelligence Officer, where she was awarded the Bronze Star - the military’s fourth-highest individual military award - not once but twice: first for Combat operations in Iraq while assigned to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division; second for combat operations in southern Afghanistan with assigned to the 2nd Squadron, 17th Cavalry Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division. When RaeAnne transitioned to a civilian career she started out at the NYSE as an Event Marketing Specialist. She then worked as a Sales & Business Development member first at Tradecraft and then at Addy before joining Facebook.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- Tradecraft and how to get an MBA equivalent experience in 3 months
- How RaeAnne's transition straight to industry compared with her husband's transition to business school
- Advice for those applying to Facebook and common veteran paths
- Two concrete examples of explaining in a veteran background to a Facebook interviewer
- And much, much more…
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- Listen to it on iTunes.
- Stream by clicking here.
- Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”
QUESTION OF THE DAY: How can I make these episodes more valuable to active duty military personnel considering transitioning to the civilian world? Please let me know in the comments.
Scroll below for links and show notes…
Selected Links from the Episode
- Another interview I did between a husband and wife veteran combo where one went to business school and the other directly to industry are my interviews with Jimmy & Shaunnah interview
- Tradecraft - 12 week tech immersion program. Tracts include Sales & BD, User Experience, and Growth
- Another interview that references Coding Academies and other efficient education sources is my interview with Johannes & Maggi on Career Offroading
- Other programs similar to Tradcraft - GrowthX / Growth Academy
Show Notes
- 1:31 - RaeAnne's background
- 4:58 - How RaeAnne approached her decision to leave the Army
- 8:26 - How RaeAnne and her husband approached the Reserves
- 10:23 - The most surpsing aspects of RaeAnne's transition to civilian life
- 13:45 - How RaeAnne approached her initial job search
- 25:38 - An overview of Tradecraft
- 35:00 - RaeAnne's second job search and how she improved - great advice to all veterans
- 44:40 - Advice for those applying to Facebook and common veteran paths
- 47:00 - RaeAnne explains why her background is applicable at Facebook - this is a great example of how veterans could explain their story in an interview
- 49:33 - RaeAnne explains how her background relates to sales and relationship building
- 51:45 - How RaeAnne's journey directly to industry compared with her husband's choice to go to business school
BTU #24 - Vic Perez: Submarines to a Wall Street Trader
Vic Perez graduated from the Naval Academy with a BS in Economics with Merit. He served in the Navy for 6 years - first as an officer onboard nuclear submarines as part of the crew of the USS Cheyenne, and after that as an instructor at Notre Dame. While at Notre Dame, Victor somehow found the time to earn his MBA from The University of Chicago Booth School of Business with an emphasis on Finance. Not only did he do that while teaching at Notre Dame…he did it in just two years instead of the traditional 3. Vic now works in the Financial Services Industry with Wells Fargo as part of their new Veteran Internship Program. His current role is as a Credit Derivative Swap Trading Analyst
BTU #21: Ian Folau - Tactical advice for starting a company (even while on Active Duty)
“I was able to throw together some website and it was bringing in enough leads that we were able to fill everybody's houses and it just really took off for me. And it was my first venture, and ever since then I was hooked. The idea that I can make more money than my paycheck was exciting for me - the fact that I can provide something that someone will pay even a dollar for motivated me beyond what I could imagine." – Ian Folau
Ian Folau is the Co-Founder & CEO of the New York based startup, GitLinks. However, this wasn't Ian's first startup. Ian started founding companies while still on active duty in the Army, where he started his first of multiple startups. Ian studied Systems Engineering at West Point after which he served in the Army in multiple capacities before returning to West Point as an instructor. After departing the Army, he attended Cornell Tech to obtain his MBA, and during which he co-founded his most recent company.
In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics, including:
- Steps you can take right now to start your first company (even if you're on Active Duty)
- Resources you can use to start learning and growing as an entrepreneur
- Entrepreneurial mistakes that Ian made and what he learned from them, and the importance of failing fast
- Advice on how to tease out who might be a better Co-Founder
- What Ian's day-to-day life looked like when he first founded GitLinks
- How leadership as an entrepreneur differs from military leadership
- And much, much more…
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- Listen to it on iTunes.
- Stream by clicking here.
- Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”
QUESTION OF THE DAY: How can I make these episodes more valuable to active duty military personnel considering transitioning to the civilian world? Please let me know in the comments.
Scroll below for links and show notes…
Selected Links from the Episode
- Related Interviews: BTU #13 - Taylor Justice: Army to Raising $6M in Funding
- Book Recommendations:
- Podcast Recommendations:
- Tech MBA Programs referenced:
Show Notes
- 1:39 - Ian’s background
- 2:40 - Ian's decision to leave the Army
- 6:26 - Deciding to not pursue the Reserves
- 7:20 - The most surprising aspect of Ian's transition to civilian life
- ** 9:39 - Ian does a fantastic job of explaining his background in a way that is relevant to the listener. This comes up time and time again in interviews as a really crucial skill
- 12:45 - Advice on how to better explain a veterans history to a civilian
- 15:10 - Ian's experience starting companies while in the Army and how he got started
- 21:30 - Resources to consider to help in your own entrepreneurial journey
- 28:11 - Entrepreneurial mistakes that Ian made and what he learned from them, and the importance of failing fast
- 33:10 - Advice on how to tease out who might be a better Co-Founder
- 38:52 - Cornell Tech, and how it supports entrepreneurs
- 40:52 - Advice on applying to Cornell Tech, and other programs to consider
- 43:10 - An overview on Ian's current company, GitLinks
- 46:15 - What Ian's day-to-day life looked like when he first founded GitLinks
- 48:56 - How leadership as an entrepreneur differs from military leadership
- 51:19 - Actions you can take right now to start an entrepreneurial journey (even while on Active Duty)
- 53:19 - Final words of wisdom
BTU #18: Tom Wolfe - Everything you need to know to plan your transition
"Open your eyes, be receptive, try to learn about what's unknown to you, in addition to what you're already aware of."– Tom Wolfe
Tom Wolfe is a career coach, author, and columnist. He is the author of OUT OF UNIFORM -- Your Guide to a Successful Military-to-Civilian Transition, as well as a columnist of 11 years for CivilianJobs.com. Tom has over 29 years of experience in the Career Development industry. Tom is a graduate of the US Naval Academy, and served as a Surface Warfare Officer and Admiral’s Aide.
In this interview we discuss:
- Stereotypes about veterans - how to use stories in interviews to reinforce the positive ones, and preemptively combat the negative ones
- Common mistakes veterans make - like being too humble or understated in an interview
- Job hunting techniques (like using informational interviews to see if you’d like a career and potentially get your foot in the door of an organization)
- Using Filters for your job search so you can avoid boiling the ocean when looking for your ideal job
- Using a career coach as a personal trainer for your career
- Tactical exercises you can use to improve your self knowledge as part of a job search
- And much, much more…
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- Listen to it on iTunes.
- Stream by clicking here.
- Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”
QUESTION OF THE DAY: How can I make these episodes more valuable to active duty military personnel considering transitioning to the civilian world? Please let me know in the comments.
Scroll below for links and show notes…
Selected Links from the Episode
- Tom's book: Our of Uniform
- Contact Tom at: http://www.tomwolfe-careercoach.com/index.html
- Tom's book's website: http://www.out-of-uniform.com
- Canines for Service: http://www.caninesforservice.org/
Show Notes
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[3:10] - Tom’s background in writing and career coaching
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[4:10] - The most common mistakes Tom sees veterans make in their career transition
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[13:27] - Stereotypes - how to reinforce the positives and preempt the negatives
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[24:26] Reasons why veterans get rejected in interviews
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[27:00] - A surefire way to succeed in an interview
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[28:33] - How to gather information about what you want to do as efficiently as possible
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[33:18] - Using Informational Interviews to figure out what you want to do… and potentially get your foot in the door
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[36:12] - How to use filters to simplify your job search
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[43:20] - 1/2 of veterans end up working for a company they weren’t aware of at the start of their search..how to broaden your search to be aware of broader opportunities
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[47:50] - A personal trainer for your career - Career Coaching
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[57:03] - Using mistakes to learn in you job search
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[58:32] - Where you can learn more about Tom’s work
BTU #15 - Tom Spahn: Law School, Corporate Law, and Management Consulting
Tom Spahn has spent time in his civilian career as both a Corporate Lawyer at Sullivan & Cromwell, as well as a Management Consultant at McKinsey & Co. He has a collection of degrees - he received his JD from Stanford Law School while also obtaining MS in Management Science & Engineering at Stanford at the same time. He also holds a Masters in Engineering Management from Old Dominion University. Tom graduated from the Naval Academy, served on submarines with the crew of the USS Chicago (SSN 721).